Two Cans & String

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Post by: Blake
Posted on: 10 Cado 6:0 - 17.92.62
With the commotion and dust cloud of introducing the new site, there's quite a bit of information flying around in an unorganized fashion. I suppose I'll take this opportunity to let you know what's going on, what my plans are, and dispel rumors and general confusion.

Unless you registered just now or are not a very observant person in general, the site has radically changed. In fact, this is an entirely new site that I have written from scratch that bears remarkable resemblance to the site you once knew as Two Cans & String that I have pointed the twocansandstring.com domain name to. The old site that twocansandstring.com used to point to is now located at its domainless home over here. It'll get lonely over the next few weeks, so go ahead and give it a visit. This archive version of the site is read-only, so you can't actively use it. It's a take-photos-leave-footsteps sort of deal.

There are 3 obvious differences between this site and the previous one.
  • The Question & Answer section is radically different and AJAX based. If you are using IE6, you may notice another change: it is entirely busted. Upgrade. IE6 was retro in 2004. If you are on a public/school/work computer and cannot upgrade, I suggest you take to arms and stage a protest since your computer has some serious security worries that ought to be overshadowing your need to use TwoCans.
  • The Messaging system looks different. Not all that different. Just different. You'll also notice helpful emails from the Notification Fairy when you get a new message. If you would like the Notification Fairy to go away, there's an option to tell her to do so in the account settings page.
  • Creating a forum post now has more shiny options. Such as bold, italic, colors, images, emoticons, etc. Please don't abuse these. I wasn't really thinking of forum features when I created these. More on that below.

So the big importance of these upgrades was to combine all my sites. This probably means nothing to you, especially if you have never visited any of my other sites. Even if you have, all my sites will still be visually different and located at different domains. However, they are all running off the same codebase and using the same database and user account system. Like I said, this really has no direct importance to you. But to me, it means I no longer have to waste time working on the same feature multiple times for sites that are 90% similar. For you, this eventually means more features and updates from me. As a bonus side effect, it also means you can log in and use my other sites with your same account you have here. Once nerdparadise.com is complete, feel free to try it out. It's almost kind of creepy!

One of the architectural decisions I made for my new set of sites was to base almost all content-based features on the forum infrastructure. This would also serve as a time saver on my part. For example, all the posts under /things/ are actually forum threads in a hidden forum category. You can comment on them now. Comments are nothing more than replies to the original post in the threads. Since NerdParadise.com is mostly article-focused, the advanced formatting features were a necessity. That's the primary reason why they're there. Especially the code syntax and equation editing buttons which I don't realistically expect users to use often.

Yesterday

Yesterday I finished the site and started to run importers. My goal was to import ALL data from the old site to this new one. I succeeded in most places. I failed in 2. I tried to import the forum posts. The data format was much too different and there were too many posts that it made doing so impractical. I figured I could leave the archived version of the site up and all would be well, eventually. The other part I royally failed at was importing the messages. I wrote the set of queries to import the messages. I got the conversation headers and even the message headers importer just fine. Then when I ran the message item query THE DATA CENTER IN WHICH THE MYSQL SERVER WAS HOUSED EXPLODED IN A GIANT MUSHROOM CLOUD THUS VAPORIZING ALL HUMANS WITHIN A TWENTY-THREE MILE RADIUS which is why your messages are not currently present. Once the server was restored I dared not run that query again, so you'll just have to look at the archived version of the site for your messages. Again, the archive site is here. There are 1.9 million messages in the system. The new message format for TwoCans2 actually duplicates each message item so that would have been 3.8 million entries (this is to allow users to independently delete messages). That is a lot for a MySQL hobbyist like my self and the unfortunate bystanders that were near the data center.

Today

I launched TwoCans2. No serious defects have been discovered thanks to the valiant efforts of the people in the IRC channel who bug-bashed the thing last night. Tonight I will be making a few more fixes typically focused around usability that people have pointed out in the forum. Also, I have received a few complaints that messages in conversations that were completely anonymous are not recoverable or useful in any way in read-only mode. Therefore I will write a feature (on the archive site) that will allow you to click a button next to the message and transfer that conversation over to new TwoCans.

Tomorrow

If no serious issues are found with TwoCans, I will be moving on to releasing NerdParadise.com. If you were annoyed by the upgrade downtime, think about the poor souls over on NP that have been without a home since TwoCans originally went down. Hopefully the transfer over there will go smoother than it did for TwoCans, but there may be a few service "flickers" when I do certain upgrade/transfer tasks. So heads up on that.

...and that is the scoop of what's going on right now or went on recently. Again, I merged the account systems for TwoCans and NerdParadise. It is entirely possible that something went wrong during that merge causing account casualties. So far I've only run into one (special) case of this happening, but there could be more. If you are having trouble logging in, just register a new temporary account and send me a message with "ZOMG I CANNOT LOG IN WITH MY OTHER ACCOUNT" in the message title. Please let me know what your user account name was and I will try to figure out what happened.

Thank you for reading and hope you enjoy the new site!
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User Comments: 101
Post by fragglerocks on 10 Cado 6:1 - 4.92.43
Can't wait to see the nerdparadise.com site.
Post by jtumbaco5 on 10 Cado 6:1 - 7.49.93
Dude, I can't really see very much difference from the old site and the new one. I was hoping for a new UI, but what you said makes sense, since it simplifies things on your end. Thanks for the update!
ether
Post by Ether on 10 Cado 6:1 - 9.55.14
Is there going to be another version of roaming in hyrule? I remember you saying you were going to produce one that wasn't Zelda based but I'm not finding it.
Post by jtumbaco5 on 10 Cado 6:1 - 9.69.17
Hey Blake, why is it that we keep showing up as you when we comment on here? Is that a bug?
blake
Post by Blake on 10 Cado 6:1 - 10.93.61
Wow, that's weird. I've fixed it, now. It'a amazing what a simple typo in code can do.
Post by jtumbaco5 on 10 Cado 6:1 - 14.12.25
Thanks man!
webslave
Post by Webslave on 10 Cado 6:2 - 7.53.47
Well done, Blake. The new website is the bomb!
Post by Shailey on 10 Cado 6:2 - 19.8.96
my questions dont work anymore.. :(
kaatjecactus
Post by kaatjecactus on 10 Cado 6:3 - 14.75.74
Do the other language pools work? When I set my language to another language, no questions showed up.
rainingonyourparade
Post by RainingOnYourParade on 10 Cado 6:3 - 14.78.3
I don't think TwoCans has gained much popularity in non-English countries so far, so it's unlikely many people have asked any questions in foreign languages.
blake
Post by Blake on 10 Cado 6:3 - 14.81.39
It's been requested several times and it required key infrastructural changes. Even though it's not popular enough to warrant multiple language support, if TwoCans grows in the near future, it was in the best interest to add support for it now.
person
Post by Person on 10 Cado 6:5 - 18.92.99
I have decided to type my questions in many languages.
millrcrt
Post by millrcrt on 10 Cado 7:0 - 18.19.54
Those poor people living near you..
But great job on the new site! Thanks!
chzmachine
Post by chzmachine on 10 Cado 9:0 - 11.90.83
I dig "skip forever". Nice work overall!
dulceamaruie
Post by dulceamaruie on 10 Cado 12:1 - 10.68.33
LOL the options are the funniest thing here :P
Will I get in trouble for posting in multiple languages? Like English, French, Romanian, Java... XD j/k about the java, sort of
charli
Post by Charli on 10 Cado 12:1 - 10.84.14
We Englishers would appreciate it more if you didn't...or at least translated/created your own language thread.
gws
Post by gws on 10 Cado 12:2 - 6.19.63
LOL the options are the funniest thing here :P
Will I get in trouble for posting in multiple languages? Like English, French, Romanian, Java... XD j/k about the java, sort of

You can post in Java as long as you use a decent English-language API and don't start making up a bunch of custom classes.
akirasushi
Post by AkiraSushi on 10 Cado 13:4 - 18.66.13
I would really appreciate it if TwoCans&String used the Gregorian calender, and a 24-hour clock for its time.
charli
Post by Charli on 10 Cado 13:5 - 0.28.98
Never gonna happen.
never
Post by Never on 10 Cado 13:5 - 3.12.78
You'll get used to it eventually, honey. :)
harok
Post by Harok on 10 Cado 13:5 - 13.90.95
How long does that take?
isaac
Post by Isaac on 10 Cado 13:5 - 14.2.85
For Never and Ever.
never
Post by Never on 10 Cado 14:0 - 4.5.19
:)

Definitely.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 10 Cado 14:0 - 15.29.44
Now that I've learned the O'Harean, I'm kind of annoyed by people's attachment to Gregorian.
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 10 Cado 14:0 - 15.51.0
Exactly how I feel. It isn't difficult and it's neat to use.
jaxxie
Post by jaxxie on 10 Cado 14:1 - 5.79.56
Hmm. I must learn this O'Harean time system.
akirasushi
Post by AkiraSushi on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 12.79.40
With all due respect to TwoCans&String, I grew up with the Gregorian calender, and I do not want to learn another format of time just for one website.
ninjaofcloud
Post by Ninja_of_Cloud on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 12.90.21
You don't have to. Most people get along fine just ignoring it.
charli
Post by Charli on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 12.93.22
Just don't expect Blake or anyone else to change for you.
antagonist
Post by Antagonist on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 12.99.42
I grew up burning witches and homosexuals. So I'm just gonna keep doing that, 'kay?
ninjaofcloud
Post by Ninja_of_Cloud on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 13.4.24
Don't forget to make sure the witches weigh the same as a duck, Ant. Wouldn't want to burn a normal person by mistake...
charli
Post by Charli on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 13.31.39
And always ask if it's their real nose. -nods-
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 13.62.55
With all due respect to TwoCans&String, I grew up with the Gregorian calender, and I do not want to learn another format of time just for one website.

It really isn't that big of a deal. It's actually quite simple if you sit down and think about it.
isaac
Post by Isaac on 10 Abeo 0:2 - 14.50.5
With all due respect to TwoCans&String, I grew up with the Gregorian calender, and I do not want to learn another format of time just for one website.

With all due respect, you could kindly carry on your own business and simply ignore the time of the post and use the convenient little clock in the corner of your screen for all your other time based needs.
empressliv
Post by Empress_Liv on 11 Ineo 6:1 - 19.20.19
I don't think I would pay attention to the time and date even if it was in Gregorian. It's just not that important.(well, time and date is, but it doesn't matter all that much here)
rainingonyourparade
Post by RainingOnYourParade on 11 Ineo 6:1 - 19.26.30
It makes a difference when you looking for The Word or are searching for a specific thread or post. That being said, O'Harean is easier.
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 6.79.63
If you take the time to learn it. (Still hasn't taken the time to learn it fully.)
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 7.23.26
The time is harder to grasp because you do not have a clock to learn with, so I understand if people do not understand the time. The dating system is easy though.
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 7.73.52
I understand the date system, but I don't have memorized what dates correspond to what times of year.
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 9.15.95
Hm? The Cresco, Vigeo, Cado, Ineo, Abeo part?
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 14.86.39
Yes, but also I would be unable to tell you, for example, what O'Harean date my birthday falls on off the top of my head.
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 11 Ineo 6:2 - 14.99.19
Well, that takes reprogramming of your own mind.
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Ineo 6:3 - 5.26.25
Right, which I haven't had the motivation for yet.
vcordie
Post by vcordie on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 7.23.52
I find this category of the forum/section of the website is lonely. Post more stuff here >.>
Post by SatelliteMind on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 7.25.35
Are you two related?
vcordie
Post by vcordie on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 7.26.44
Who?
Post by Macman393 on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 8.31.18
I assume you and 777H2, because of your avatars.
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 10.21.2
What a ridiculous assumption.
Post by Macman393 on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 14.93.70
Wait, you mean the assumption that the two of them are related or the assumption that that is who he is referring to?
Post by SatelliteMind on 11 Ineo 7:1 - 15.52.82
I just thought it was cute that the two eyeball people posted back-to-back.
Post by asdasasefasd on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 7.98.61
You think that's why he changed his avatar?
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 8.73.77
No.
Post by SatelliteMind on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 16.92.4
I had an eyeball as well
grayseff
Post by Grayseff on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 17.9.65
Oh yea. Man that was ages ago. I miss Hydrogen's avatar.
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 17.25.35
I'll change it back eventually. I like this one for now though.
grayseff
Post by Grayseff on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 17.46.74
At first it confused me (except for the chi ro), but then I saw your description of it and I now like it also.
hydrogen777
Post by Hydrogen777 on 11 Cresco 0:5 - 19.35.0
Ah, thank you.
grayseff
Post by Grayseff on 11 Cresco 1:0 - 1.20.12
I can't imagine changing my avatar, it's too much like me.
Post by SatelliteMind on 11 Cresco 2:2 - 17.79.49
I'll likely change mine within the week.
asdfgh
Post by asdfgh on 11 Cresco 6:5 - 6.60.60
I've not made up my mind yet.
moonbloom
Post by moonbloom on 11 Cresco 6:5 - 14.65.53
My avatar is like a part of me... It's hard to change...
harok
Post by Harok on 11 Cresco 6:5 - 14.71.71
I fear change.
asdfgh
Post by asdfgh on 11 Cresco 7:1 - 2.63.17
Do you really?
mikerich
Post by MikeRich on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 15.50.74
I think its cool that the O'Harean calendar is more precise than Gregorian, and its cool that the web master took the time to think up a working date/time system.

However, the precision changes to me is like the difference between one of those fancy watches that are slightly more on the second than another cheaper one.

However, both will easily get me to work on time, so I'm lacking motivation to learn the O'Harean time system.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 16.49.91
I really want a wrist watch that goes by O'Harean time. That way I could switch over entirely (until I have to switch to military time and go back to Gregorian for a while).
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 16.56.39
I am going to get a watchmaker to make an O'Harean watch when I have the money.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 17.2.50
I need to find someone to make one.
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 17.93.8
I wanted to become a watchmaker. My dad said I was a cussing idiot.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.24.58
That makes me think of Watchmen. In my mind, you shall be Dr. Manhattan from now on... only, covered up a bit. *ahem*
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.30.9
Haha, naked time!
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.37.38
And now you're a mix between Dr. Manhattan and Dumbledore in Potter Puppet Pals.
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.39.31
I'm not a huge fan of Doctor Manhattan. I like Rorscarch, I hate the whole "greater good" thing.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.58.13
Rorschach is my favorite. But you talked about being a watchmaker so...
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.61.39
Yes, I know. One day I'll learn, when I'm wealthy enough to afford a hobby.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.65.28
And you'll make an O'Harean watch and present it to me when we go on a military mission together? Yeah, that sounds good. XD
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.66.69
It does doesn't it?
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.67.92
And we can get some sweets! I still haven't gotten any :(

Edit: I just realized we're taking over the thread.
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.68.52
Neither. Just pies, coke and cigarettes. I feel like sweets are healthier.
kukolka
Post by kukolka on 11 Cresco 8:2 - 18.70.88
Probably
isaac
Post by Isaac on 11 Cresco 8:3 - 14.99.93
C-c-c-c-c-combo breaker.
hunterr
Post by Hunterr on 11 Cresco 8:3 - 15.5.12
: (
asdfgh
Post by asdfgh on 11 Cresco 10:2 - 6.22.41
What?
isaac
Post by Isaac on 11 Cresco 10:2 - 7.47.38
They were taking over the thread and I broke it.
mikerich
Post by MikeRich on 11 Cresco 10:2 - 17.90.39
So, I'm really likin' the dashboard.
isaac
Post by Isaac on 11 Cresco 10:2 - 19.36.30
From Forum Stats:
So you may see unfamiliar names.


Yeah, unless I'm mistaken, all those users are TwoCans natives. So, I guess that warning really only applies to the NPer's.
iheartanyonebutyou
Post by Iheartanyonebutyou on 11 Cresco 10:3 - 10.54.38
Haha, we're obsessive posters! O_o
asdfgh
Post by asdfgh on 11 Cresco 10:4 - 4.3.1
Yes?
soulgirlkc
Post by soulgirlKC on 11 Cresco 11:1 - 0.18.36
I asked this in the "Ask" section of the site.

Out of pure curiosity I'm wondering how long twocansandstring.com has been a site? I'm not talking about just this version of TwoCans, but the version before this current one, (and any other versions that were in existence even before).

Also, while I'm on the topic of the old TwoCans, and since I'm feeling nostalgic, there's no way I can still look at the archived site, is there?
Post by Brendan on 11 Cresco 11:1 - 0.21.48
You can look at it here.
blake
Post by Blake on 11 Cresco 11:1 - 4.0.90
No www

This was the first user to register other than me, so his registration date is the creation date of the site. NP was created 12 years ago so you may see older registration dates in cross-listed threads.
soulgirlkc
Post by soulgirlKC on 11 Cresco 11:1 - 8.74.98
Last online: 961 days ago. Wow. Thanks so much!
antidaeophobic
Post by antidaeophobic on 11 Cresco 11:2 - 6.99.44
chaos. along with rendom are very active members aren't they?
btw what is 29th june in o'harean?
sophrosyne
Post by Sophrosyne on 11 Cresco 11:2 - 16.49.95
Cresco 1:1. Use this.
antidaeophobic
Post by antidaeophobic on 11 Cresco 11:3 - 3.36.94
ahh that is now in my favourites
derpyderpyhooves
Post by derpyderpyhooves on 11 Vigeo 7:3 - 12.15.30
Blake, I love this site, but I want to roam around in Hyrule!! Make one!
theking
Post by theking on 12 Ineo 1:1 - 7.11.41
Thank you.
iamsobored
Post by iamsobored on 12 Ineo 2:4 - 0.62.15
WOW
ichigo
Post by Ichigo on 12 Ineo 11:1 - 6.9.93
Sweet.
ichigo
Post by Ichigo on 12 Ineo 12:1 - 6.18.22
Personal.
nicephpio
Post by Nice PHP I/O on 12 Cresco 3:2 - 7.82.62
100th reply. I was gunna ask a question, but I figured it out.
Post by Boodle Doot on 13 Cado 6:3 - 18.18.84
i call hacks
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